What happened in America in the 1860s was a war of secession a war of independence no different in principle from what happened in America in the 1770s and 1780s.
I think the record speaks for itself. These are two individuals who have been for the war when the headlines were good and against it when their poll ratings were bad.
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In some states militant nationalism has gone to the lengths of dictatorship the cult of the absolute or totalitarian state and the glorification of war.
