There are people who cannot forget as neither do I the lesson of the years of the Indochina War. Which was first that the state is capable of being a murderer. A mass murderer and a conspirator and a liar.
A faction willing to take the risks of making war on the ossified status quo in the Middle East can be described as many things but not as conservative.
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I have been a gigantic Rolling Stones fan since approximately the Spanish-American War.