I did a twenty foot print and John Cage is involved in that because he was the only person I knew in New York who had a car and who would be willing to do this.
It's like no matter what I do I always feel like I'm five years old and I end up in the back of my father's car looking out the window and nothing has changed in 25 years.
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I was 16 years old driving to LA and sleeping in my car just trying to make it happen.