Small businesses pay 18 percent more than big businesses for health care the same health care just because they're small and they have too small a pool of risk.
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We see tremendous excitement from small-business people about the administration and about the attention and commitment that the president has to do things that really make a difference. I think they recognize that health care is one of those. I think they recognize that what we've been doing in the Recovery Act with our loan programs has mattered.